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    A Good Girl By Any Other Name

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    Hello, Girl Detective fans. Mr. Thrilling here, speaking on behalf of
    the Unsinkable Ms. Browne, who’s hunkered down in her Fortess of
    Solitude, slaving away on Poetic Death #4, or whatever the official
    sequel to Poetic Death #3 will be titled.

    Of course, those of you who just came in are probably scratching their
    heads. Girl Detective? Mr. Thrilling? And who on earth is the
    Unsinkable Ms. Browne?

    Well, it’s all very simple, really, but if you came in after the
    opening credits, please feel free to take notes.

    Diana Killian’s official web site is Girl Detective which is administered by her husband, Kevin Burton Smith who is also the editor and founder of the Thrilling Detective Web Site, a site which has been dishing up the dirt on private eyes and detective fiction for almost ten years now. The “Mr. Thrilling” sobriquet (believe me, I’ve been called much worse) was bestowed upon me by Diana in the throes of passion (unfortunately, I think it was after I cooked a particularly tasty meal). And the Ms. Browne tag is pretty easy to explain as well – Diane’s real name is Diane Browne, although it took me a few years of marriage to stop thinking of her as “D.L. Browne” (yet another of her pen names).

    As for the “unsinkable,” suffice it to say that Diana/Diane/D.L.
    etc., etc. is one mighty writing machine, a literary force of nature. She could write through a hurricane, an earthquake, or even supper. She’s not only unsinkable; she may just be unstoppable.

    As a writer myself, I’m constantly in awe of her dedication. And
    still very, very much in love with that crazy lady (Folks, you have no
    idea…)

    Which is why I’m guest-blogging. And using the opportunity to plug an
    upcoming joint project. The title’s still sorta tentative, but right
    now the working title is Stand-Up Dames. The sub-title’s even more
    tentative, but it’ll be something like “Hard-boiled Women Writers
    of the Pulp Era” or something like that. It’ll be heading your way
    probably sometime in 2009, courtesy of Vince Emery Productions, the
    publishers of several books on crime fiction.

    It’s going to be an anthology of short stories and excerpts from and
    biographical and bibliographical info on some of the women who worked
    the hard-boiled vein of the pulp era, which we’ve taken to stretch
    from about 1925 to about 1959.

    Yeah, I know it flies in the face of the alleged “common knowledge”
    so popular in certain circles that Marcia Muller (or maybe Sara Paretsky or Sue Grafton) were the first women to ever write hard-boiled crime fiction, a bogus claim that insults the memories of some fine writers (and a claim that Muller, Paretsky and Grafton would be quick to denounce).

    Sure, too many of these early women writers are now forgotten, but in
    many cases they’re no more forgotten than their male contemporaries.

    And in most cases it’s not a matter of gender at all but the
    transcient nature of pulp that’s the culprit.

    Anyway, trust me, we’ve rounded up plenty of women we think deserve
    to be rediscovered and, copyrights permitting, plenty of their wares to
    show you. Some of the names you’ll recognize, some of them you’ll
    have never heard of, and some of them you may just get you scratching your
    head.

    Some of them were undeniably great writers; some of them were merely
    good, and a few may make you cringe. Some of them were subversive,
    some of them “transcended” the genre, and a few were gloriously and
    surprisingly politically incorrect. Some were glib; some were dark;
    and some were both at the same time. Some of them wrote for the pulps,
    some wrote for the slicks; some of them wrote in hardcover; a few of
    them rode the paperback boom of the late forties and fifties. But they
    were all pros who knew how to spin a yarn and make their mark in a
    genre that was supposedly written exclusively for and read by men.

    And that’s another bit of “common knowledge” we hope to blow out of
    the water.

    Anyway, we’re currently finalizing our roster, reading stories and
    novels and researching the lives of some very fascinating women. Once
    the roster’s finished, we’ll be divvying it up between us. D.L. has
    already called dibs on a few of them, and I’ve got my own favorites,
    but I think this is going to be one hell of a lot of fun. And I think
    readers – both male and female — will be having a lot of fun as
    well, when this puppy finally hits the streets.

    Well, that’s it for now. Maybe next time, I’ll tell you what The
    Divine Ms. Browne is really like…

    xoxo

    18 Responses to “A Good Girl By Any Other Name”

    1. Ahhhh, Mr. Thrilling. We’ve been waiting for you to stop by the clubhouse.

      The anthology sounds great!! Good luck with all the copyrights and stuff.

      by Laura on March 3rd, 2008 at 7:40 am

    2. Welcome to the GG blog Kevin. It’s nice to hear from you in a (dare I say) less controversial format. Yes, I lurk at WC.

      You are amazing in your praise for Ms. Browne and even though they might take away your man card for this, I think it’s sweet and she definately deserves your praise.

      I’m totally thrilled with the upcoming project. Diana’s been sending me homework so I can be a more eductated part of the discussion, which reminds me, I need to finish the last Christie I checked out.

      The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don’t know.

      by Lynn on March 3rd, 2008 at 7:54 am

    3. Mr. Thilling! Good to hear from you. Thanks for stopping in today. The book sounds fascinating. I love it when we find out that “common knowledge” isn’t really what we thought it was! Can’t wait to see it.

      by Sara on March 3rd, 2008 at 8:42 am

    4. Mr. Thrilling… (sigh) I’m going to have to have the love of my own life read your post, to see how it’s supposed to be done.

      Good luck with the anthology; it sounds like great fun.

      And darn, I did know about the D.L. Browne part, but I didn’t know that Diana was really Diane. She’ll still answer to Diana, I hope?

      by JennieB on March 3rd, 2008 at 8:51 am

    5. One of the reasons I wanted to be a high school history teacher was that ‘common knowledge’ is so awfully boring - so that assures that the anthology will be interesting! ‘Can’t wait to read it - are there any names you can let slip this early?

      by Kate Hathway on March 3rd, 2008 at 9:25 am

    6. Your new project sounds like really fun reading!

      by Tori Lennox on March 3rd, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    7. LOL! Okay, as a resident of the state of the original “Unsinkable Molly Brown” (Colorado), I was definitely puzzled. I was thinking, “Who is this guy talking about anyway?” Then it turned out to be your WIFE! How cool is that! Looking forward to the anthology; I’m always glad to learn more about my feminine forebears.

      Or is that forebear-ers? :)

      by Holly Y on March 3rd, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    8. The latest installment of the Carnival of the Criminal Minds is up at Jungle Red Writers, where we have chosen “Strong Women” for our theme. So, of course, we HAD to talk about the Good girls Kill for Money blog.
      check it out!

      by Jan Brogan on March 3rd, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    9. Mr. Thrilling here again.

      Wow! I get more comments guest-blogging here than I do on my own site. Maybe if I blogged more there, instead of just huffing and puffing?

      As for naming names, it is SOOOO tempting. But I really am afraid we’ll be scooped.

      But Lynn? Although she did write for (or at least get published in) the pulps (no, really!) Dame Christie definitely won’t be part of the roster. We’re sticking with the harder-boiled end of the crime spectrum, with forays into noir and “psychological suspense.”

      In other words, no little gray cells, but plenty of booze and bullets, broads and boyos and even… burnt baked beans.Yes, ladies, we have legumes!!!

      Not that this will be the DEFINITIVE look at these women — we’ll be happy just to drag some of them back into the public’s consciousness.

      We will be rounding up some of the usual suspects, who probably need no introduction (So I won’t give them one). But it’s those lost lambs I hope will get people talking…

      Some were never really known even in their prime, and some have inexplicably faded from memory. But we’ve got quite an assortment. I can’t really name names, but I don’t mind teasing you all a little bit. We have:

      1) a writer who actually has a high school named after her
      2) a two-woman writing team who used another woman to pose for their author bios
      3) a woman who wrote under a male byline because of a typo
      4) another woman who landed a lucrative writing gig partially because someone thought she WAS a man
      5) a woman whom Chandler thought was the bee’s knees.
      6) a woman who wrote one of the best — or at least the most disturbing — serial killer novels of all time.
      7) at least one woman who’d be horrified to be considered any sort of a feminist role model.
      8) a woman who was a schoolteacher by day, and queen of the pulps by night.
      9) a woman who hung out with the Commies, and learned about birth control and abortion from “an old Russian lady doctor.”

      So, uh, yeah, consider yourselves teased… but don’t tell D.L. Uh, Diane. I mean, Diana…

      by Kevin Burton Smith on March 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    10. I’m totally thrilled with the upcoming project. Diana’s been sending me homework so I can be a more eductated part of the discussion, which reminds me, I need to finish the last Christie I checked out.

      It’s the best kind of homework, isn’t it?

      by Diana Killian on March 3rd, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    11. He didn’t do too badly, did he, Laura? :P

      by Diana Killian on March 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    12. Hey, Sara, it’s going to be a terrific project, even if my contribution is mostly going to consist of reading stuff I love to read and pontificating.

      by Diana Killian on March 3rd, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    13. Hey, Jennie, truthfully I’m almost more used to Diana at this point! That’s what comes of spending your life on line.

      by Diana Killian on March 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    14. Hey, Kate, even I don’t know the full line up yet! Apparently he really IS worried about being scooped. :x

      by Diana Killian on March 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    15. I know, I know. It’s a dirty job, Tori, but someone’s got to do it. How else to justify all those years of prowling Ebay?

      by Diana Killian on March 3rd, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    16. Hey, Holly, everytime he calls me that I think I should burst into song. Too many viewings of the Debbie Reynolds movie.

      DAMN YOU, MOLLY BROWN!!! My sisters and I went around quoting that in booming baritones for years.

      by Diana Killian on March 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    17. Hey, Jan, we’ve got to check this out! Thanks for the plug.

      by Diana Killian on March 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    18. I especially like the fact Mr. Thrilling signed off with xoxooxo. Even I don’t sign off with hugs and kisses! Who was that masked man and what did he do with my irascible spouse?

      by Diana Killian on March 3rd, 2008 at 11:36 pm

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